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kiogart
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dioxin wrote:
This is for Stealfire and any other hunter who is wanting to improve thier "game"

Here are my new specs and glyph choices:
First Survival PVP-BGs and PVE spec - only really one point in PVP but still a great pvp spec for BGs
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cZ0eVooZx0ciocIhedAhsk:ANfMz0
Chose Serpent Sting glyph over aimed shot so you dont have to refresh a GCD as often for pve, if you find yourself PVPing more in this spec then do aimed shot glyph instead. This may be what I do since I'm planning on trying MM spec later today for PVE.

For MM PVE - this is the cookie cutter MM pve spec.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cxbZ0eVoRuzGIsguAox00b:fAhMz0
Rules for MM spec from Elitist Jerks
Dont try MM until you have a 245 ranged weapon or better, Surv will beat out MM until you get the higher damage weapon. Once you get over 300 ArP, never again us arcane shot unless you are moving, use SS it will give more damage.
I choose Trueshot aura glyph over aimed, steady, chimera b/c I'm thinking the increased crit with the increased bleed affect will give more DPS over time. My second choice would be aimed shot glyph but I dont think I have the high enough crit right now to go for it yet.

Let me know what you think and if this helped.

Dug


Eh... gotta be sincere on this, I never really read any page on how to maxize my DPS as you can see in both my specs I really love to experiment, swim against the river Cool

Just a few things, since it's PvE intented I don't really see a need for serpent sting glyph on MM spec, chimera shot will refresh it, I may be a noob for just kind of spam it everytime is up, not really sure about it. And for that free glyph I'd rather use aimed shot.

Gotta agree with your surv spec, for PvP it's totally worth it. But I'd rather go for Liltwix spec if I'd be PvE'ing... or mine for that matter. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiogart wrote:
Just a few things, since it's PvE intented I don't really see a need for serpent sting glyph on MM spec, chimera shot will refresh it, I may be a noob for just kind of spam it everytime is up, not really sure about it. And for that free glyph I'd rather use aimed shot.


Kio,
The reason you get serpent sting glyph is b/c it gives you 2 more ticks to your serpent sting, which increases your damange done by your chimera shot effect by 30%. This is a must have for MM Spec.


Check out this read for MM, it is updated for 3.3 patch. Ignore the Surv page as it is still set on 3.1. http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_builds you can also find lots of disucssion and reports and charts here at http://elitistjerks.com/f74/ but you have to scroll through over a years worth of threads to get to the updated information.

And for the survival spec, I think there are better PVE surv specs but this is probably the best pve/pvp survival there is. That way you can do either with really good damage without having to go back to the trainer every other day.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dioxin wrote:

Kio,
The reason you get serpent sting glyph is b/c it gives you 2 more ticks to your serpent sting, which increases your damange done by your chimera shot effect by 30%. This is a must have for MM Spec.


Check out this read for MM, it is updated for 3.3 patch. Ignore the Surv page as it is still set on 3.1. http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_builds you can also find lots of disucssion and reports and charts here at http://elitistjerks.com/f74/ but you have to scroll through over a years worth of threads to get to the updated information.

And for the survival spec, I think there are better PVE surv specs but this is probably the best pve/pvp survival there is. That way you can do either with really good damage without having to go back to the trainer every other day.


I might be mistaking but damage "done" isn't the damage your serpent sting have actually "done" before you use chimera shot instead of the damage it can "deal"?... cuz you know, the tootip says it's damage done... Yeah, I shouldn't take what's written to the letter, it kinds of freak things up even in RL, so sure I have to read those walls of text, but I won't expend my free time burning my eyebrowns... yeah, I'm just that lazy. Cool
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